Generac XG10000E - 10,000 Watt Electric Start Portable Generator

Thanks for your inquiry.....Generator manufacturers do not offer conversion kits or permanent enclosures for portable generators.

We at Power Equipment Direct do not recommend converting your gasoline portable generator to an alternative fuel and doing so will void the manufacturer’s warranty and may cause damage to the generator itself. These conversions are not recommended by any of the generator manufacturers.

Gasoline has an Ignition Point of 475–536 °F. When a generator is manufactured to run solely on gasoline these temperatures are taken into consideration and the engine components are made to handle these temperatures.

Propane (LP) has an Ignition Point of 920-1020°F and Natural Gas (NG) has an Ignition Point of 900–1500°F. These higher temperatures will cause damage over time on any “gas only” powered engine.

The following guidelines cover Honda engines (Also applies to other engine manufacturers) modified to run on fuels other than the one for which they were designed, such as converting an engine to run on propane (LP) or natural gas (NG).


• Honda gasoline engines are certified to operate on unleaded fuel with a pump octane rating of 86 or higher, containing no more than 10% ethanol (E10).

• Any change to the original configuration of a certified Honda engine is a potential violation of the Clean Air Act prohibition against tampering (40 CFR §1068.101(b)(1)). The tampering prohibition is important because poorly designed and installed modifications can increase emissions.

• The Clean Air Act prohibits anyone from removing or rendering inoperative any device or design element installed on engines in compliance with regulations. These actions are considered tampering, which carries a civil penalty up to $37,500 for each engine or equipment in violation.

• Engines converted by a third party (OEM, dealer, converter, etc.) to run on a different fuel type must be recertified with the EPA on the new fuel to comply with applicable emission standards. The third party must recertify under a new family and notify Honda to not include the modified engines in the original family.

• Converted engines to be sold for use in California must meet CARB requirements and the converter must obtain approval from CARB. EPA certificates or tampering exemptions will not satisfy the requirement for CARB certification.

• Once certified, the third party must remove the Honda emission control label and apply a compliant emission control label for the new fuel indicating the new certifying manufacturer. Honda will no longer assume any responsibility as the certifying manufacturer.

• The Honda Distributor's Limited Warranty does not extend to parts affected or damaged by the conversion to or use of fuel other than the fuel for which the engine was originally designed.


• Honda offers V-twin engines specifically designed and certified for use in LP/NG applications. The engines incorporate special design features that address the higher combustion temperatures and reduced lubrication to the valve guide area (since it is a dry fuel, not liquid). Please contact your sales representative or distributor for additional information.


Disclaimer: The guidance provided is intended for Honda dealer/distributor informational purposes only and not for the purpose of providing legal advice. You must contact the appropriate certifying agencies if you require information on how regulations apply to your specific application.

The regulations and additional information can be found at these web sites:

EPA Regulations

CARB Compliance

Thanks for your inquiry.

These conversions are not recommended by any of the generator manufacturers.

Gasoline has an Ignition Point of 475–536 °F. When a generator is manufactured to run solely on gasoline these temperatures are taken into consideration and the engine components are made to handle these temperatures.

Propane (LP) has an Ignition Point of 920-1020°F and Natural Gas (NG) has an Ignition Point of 900–1500°F. These higher temperatures will cause damage over time on any “gas only” powered engine.

The following guidelines cover Honda engines (Also applies to other engine manufacturers) modified to run on fuels other than the one for which they were designed, such as converting an engine to run on propane (LP) or natural gas (NG).


• Honda gasoline engines are certified to operate on unleaded fuel with a pump octane rating of 86 or higher, containing no more than 10% ethanol (E10).

• Any change to the original configuration of a certified Honda engine is a potential violation of the Clean Air Act prohibition against tampering (40 CFR §1068.101(b)(1)). The tampering prohibition is important because poorly designed and installed modifications can increase emissions.

• The Clean Air Act prohibits anyone from removing or rendering inoperative any device or design element installed on engines in compliance with regulations. These actions are considered tampering, which carries a civil penalty up to $37,500 for each engine or equipment in violation.

• Engines converted by a third party (OEM, dealer, converter, etc.) to run on a different fuel type must be recertified with the EPA on the new fuel to comply with applicable emission standards. The third party must recertify under a new family and notify Honda to not include the modified engines in the original family.

• Converted engines to be sold for use in California must meet CARB requirements and the converter must obtain approval from CARB. EPA certificates or tampering exemptions will not satisfy the requirement for CARB certification.

• Once certified, the third party must remove the Honda emission control label and apply a compliant emission control label for the new fuel indicating the new certifying manufacturer. Honda will no longer assume any responsibility as the certifying manufacturer.

• The Honda Distributor's Limited Warranty does not extend to parts affected or damaged by the conversion to or use of fuel other than the fuel for which the engine was originally designed.


• Honda offers V-twin engines specifically designed and certified for use in LP/NG applications. The engines incorporate special design features that address the higher combustion temperatures and reduced lubrication to the valve guide area (since it is a dry fuel, not liquid). Please contact your sales representative or distributor for additional information.


Disclaimer: The guidance provided is intended for Honda dealer/distributor informational purposes only and not for the purpose of providing legal advice. You must contact the appropriate certifying agencies if you require information on how regulations apply to your specific application.

The regulations and additional information can be found at these web sites:

EPA

CARB

It is not recommended to connect to 2 separate panels via the generators outlets due to causing off balanced loads on the alternator and damaging the generator and possibly the equipment you are connecting to it.

CAUTION: EQUIPMENT DAMAGE – Balanced Load

Failure to properly limit and balance the load applied to the generator will cause the generator to produce low voltage and may damage the engine generator set. It may also cause severe damage to the loads connected to the generator at that time. Improper loading of the generator set constitutes abuse and will not be covered by warranty.

Per the owner's manual the unit should be run monthly.

Owner's Manual Model 5802

Sorry, this model is not CA CARB compliant so it cannot be shipped there.

You can view all of our CA CARB compliant models via the following link....

CARB Compliant Generators

Rick, it really depends on the size of your central air conditioner. Under most circumstances, this model might be a little small to run a 4- or 5-ton unit.

You can learn more about portable generators and central air conditioners here:

http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/stories/53-How-to-Pick-the-Perfect-X-Large-Gas-Generator.html

Unfortunately, not all generator manufacturers publish the decibel ratings for their generators.

Currently, there are no industry standards or requirements for generator manufacturers to follow when testing their generators for noise.

Due to this, manufacturers can test the noise level under any conditions they choose and, therefore, the results are not very reliable as each company will test under conditions that are favorable to their products.

At this time there are no db(A) ratings available on this model.

This units comes with the following items:

Accessories Box Includes:
• 1 – Axle (secured to frame)
• Oil Filter
• 2 – Wheel Spacers
• Air Filter
• 2 – Hair Pins
• Spark Plugs
• 2 – Wheels
• Shop Towel
• 1 – Frame Foot
• 2 – Large Washers
• 2 – Carriage Bolts
• 2 – Small Washers
• 2 – Vibration Mounts
• Oil Funnel
• 4 – Flange Nuts
• 2 – Hex Head Bolts (long)
• 2 – 1 Quart SAE 30 Oil Bottles
• 2 – Hex Head Bolts
• 12 Volt Adapter Plug Charger (short)
• 2 Spacers or 4 Large Washers

This information can be found in the owner's manual which is available on our site on the product page in the specs section.

Many generators that have a bonded neutral to frame can be modified so the neutral is floating, or separate from the frame and generator ground. If the neutral connection (bond) to frame can be removed, if the manufacturer supports this, it’s usually the best solution as it would result in a “floating neutral” generator and would be ideal for connecting to most transfer switches.

If the generator manufacturer does not support modifying the generator to remove the bond between neutral and ground/frame, the system can be setup to meet all codes by using a neutral switching transfer switch. A “non-separately derived system” is where the generator neutral is floating, and its neutral is always interconnected with the neutral for the utility – this is the most common way backup systems are setup – including automatic backup systems.

If you need to isolate the neutral then you need to use a GFI type transfer switch such as the Reliance Controls "X" series switches.....see link for details.

GFI Transfer Switches

Note: Typically these switches are not required unless the 120/240v outlet on the generator is GFI protected which is found on Professional generators such as the Generac "XP" models and not the "XG" model.

The fact that a generator has a bonded-neutral does not rule out compatibility with 2-pole transfer switches, which make up the majority of all transfer switches. The only time that a portable generator will not function with a 2-pole transfer switch is if the generator has a bonded-neutral AND there is a GFCI breaker or GFCI mechanism protecting the receptacle being used to connect the generator to the transfer switch. Most 120/240v generator receptacles are not GFCI protected.

National Code does not require switching the neutral in general, but arguably the neutral should be switched when using a bonded generator based on how the system is setup and defined as a whole. Any time a bonded-neutral generator is connected through a transfer switch to a house wiring system, what results are two neutral-to-ground bond points: one at the main panel and one at the generator. This can be construed as having two bond points in the electrical system, even though the portable generator is not part of the system, and therefore one of the bond points should be removed (or a transfer device implemented that isolates the neutral).

Having two bond points in this scenario creates 'dual paths' on the ground and neutral between the generator and the house panel, aka "ground loop", meaning the ground wire from the generator to the house panel will share some of the return power with the neutral wire. This leads to a very small amount of voltage on the ground wire between the generator and house panel. It can be argued by an installer or authority that this power on the ground is objectionable, and a special neutral switching setup might be mandated. This is also why if there is a GFCI breaker protecting the generator receptacle, it will sense this power being lost on the neutral (to the ground) and will trip every time the generator is connected, even under No load.

* If the generator does not have a GFCI protecting the in-use receptacle, there will not be a trip and the generator will power circuits successfully. Now it’s just a question of whether having this setup is acceptable to the home owner, installer and authority if applicable.
Using bonded generators without switching the neutral has been a common application for many years, regardless of how the code is interpreted, but about 10 years ago generators started adding GFCI's (per OSHA job site requirements) and wiring them into the larger receptacles, which will limit their applications when used at homes. The 2014 code will require new generators to have built in GFCI’s, but only on the 15/20 amp 120 volt outlets, which in most cases are not being used to power a transfer switch. If we look at all of the portable generators that are bonded neutral, and then separate the models WITH a GFCI breaker protecting the 120/240 outlet, the percentage of these generators is extremely small. These are the only generators that will functionally require a 3-pole transfer switch that breaks the neutral.

Breaking the neutral with a “3-pole” (neutral switching) transfer device eliminates the ground loop (dual paths) between the generator and house panel created by having two bond points, and will eliminate the problem of the GFCI breaker tripping creating a “separately derived system” where the generator neutral is never common with the utility neutral.

I hope this information was helpful.

Any 50A outlet, receptacle, cord or switch has a maximum of 12,500 watts....Amps x Volts = Watts.

The best way to power these items is with a whole house type manual switch that is installed between your meter and main panel. This allows you to manage all your circuits without overloading the generator and is a very easy install. See link for recommended model for a 200A main service:

Reliance Controls - TWB2005DR

The outlets are standard from the factory.

There isn't a direct math correlation from CC's (cubic centimeters) to horsepower. Imagine a Chevy 350 cubic inch V-8 engine in a Corvette, depending on whether you have a carburetor fed engine or a fuel injected version, the power could be between 275HP - 400HP. The same logic occurs with small gasoline utility engines. Each is different enough that like CC displacements won't mean the same HP ratings from manufacturer to manufacturer.

As a "close enough" rule in the air cooled engine world, however, there is between 30-40cc per horsepower. For the 530cc engine, this would be around 15HP.

Portable generators are normally stored inside and the B&S 30471 comes with a float style battery charger which is plugged into the generator when not in use. This allows the generator battery to have a sufficient charge when the generator is needed to start.

An OHV (Overhead Valve) engine is compact designed and generally makes the unit operate quieter. The Generac OHVI (Overhead Valve Industrial) engine is built robustly with premium power and high performance and comes with a fully pressurized oil lubrication system and spin-on filter.